Stunner: Tim Thomas snubs the President

Posted: 01/23/2012 by bc in Uncategorized

Conn Smythe Trophy winner Tim Thomas chose not to attend today’s celebration of the Stanley Cup champion Boston Bruins at the White House today. The act was a political protest.
Everybody will have an opinion on this of course. That’s why I put it up.
For me, this was a team event. I’m a team first guy. End of story.

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Comments
  1. zseller says:

    I am looking forward to what he posts on his page.
    One of the many things that makes this the greatest country on the planet is that people are entitled to make choices without fear of persecution.
    Props to Tim for standing up and making a choice to not attend for whatever the reason.
    Not everyone is going to agree with his choice but he should be free to make that decision.
    If Tim does not agree with the policies or the person that is in the White House then he is making a statement by doing what he did.
    I applaud the Bruins organization for allowing him the choice to either go or not.
    Hopefully we can all learn a bit from this, that whether we agree with what he did or not, he is entitled to make his own decision and follow his beliefs.

  2. bbdux93 says:

    My politics are personal. Whether or not you agree with the views of the man currently holding the office the office of The President itself deserves the respect of an appearance.

    Sometimes I think too many of us “get our underwear in a bunch” for no good reason.

  3. bbdux93 says:

    I went to NHL.com and read Tim’s statement and while I don’t disagree with his thinking, I still believe the office of The President deserves more respect.

  4. He didnt disrespect the office. He was very respectful in his public statement. And while the president is the head of state, he also is the face of the democrat and liberal movement in this country. Bravo to him for using his voice (in a country that seems to fear speaking up these days).

  5. BackCheck says:

    lol, I knew Thomas act would fire up some chat.

    z, Totally disagree with the idea that the Bruins, “allowed Tim Thomas to either go or not.” Numerous reports indicate that both GM Peter Chiarelli and team President Cam Neely tried to persuade Thomas to attend for at least the past two months.
    Unable to convince him to attend, the Bruins merely decided not to make a bigger issue of it by sanctioning him.
    There is popular notion in society that we have the right to neglect our duty and responsibility for the sake of some agenda. I reject that notion.
    bb & Blake, many scholars have opined that a failing of the US Constitution was to not differentiate between ceremonial and political office. Thomas used a ceremonial event as a platform to make a political statement. That was tacky.

  6. yougetoutwhatyouputin says:

    As an American this was offensive. No matter what your political views are you must always respect the position/office. The president was voted in by the people, period! Thomas ignorance speaks volumes (should I have expected more?). Shunning the President is like shunning all the men and women that wear the uniform as the President is our commander and chief. I didn’t vote for him, nor do I support his views, however, I still respect the position/office. He is our President, nothing more to say.

    BTW, its understood that if you win the Stanley Cup you visit the White House. Final thought, if Boston wins the cup and a Republican wins the election would Thomas attend, childish, LOL!?

  7. czhokej says:

    Interesting discussion. I would like to jump in with my political opinion, but I will leave it to some other occasion. To say it cautiously I would support zseller’s reasoning.

  8. BackCheck says:

    Just want to compliment each of you for responding to the Thomas issue with intelligence and grace. Compared to other sites you really have created something special here.

  9. czhokej says:

    Voltaire, French writer and philosopher famous for his wit and for his advocacy of civil liberties once said: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.

  10. bbdux93 says:

    CZ – I do believe Voltaire’s position is the same as that of any American – it is what we are all about.

    Again, I do not agree with what T. Thomas did but I am 100% in favor of his right to do so.

  11. Late night jumbled rant here…bear with me.

    In regards to ‘respecting the office’ argument – we do not live under a monarchy so lets stop treating the office of the president as ‘king’. If the president summons, you aren’t required to attend and I’m not sure that refusing to do so is disrespectful of Americans. Further, you cant separate the office from the person in such a black and white manner. At what point does attacking the current holder of the office go overboard and become disrespectful to the office in and of itself? Our country spent an entire decade (well, nearly 8 years) attacking George Bush in many a way which I’d say was beyond disrespectful. The current president has even had guests in the White House who have referred to being violent toward his predecessor (*cough* Common *cough*). So, to be honest, Thomas only did what the norm has become in this country but did it in a much more respectful manner (i’d have to say he could have been a big butthead in the way he framed his refusal. The wording was classy and to the point…not very controversial). And now that Thomas does it, all of a sudden it’s bad?

    In regards to how his act will be viewed by his mates…well, it was selfish. There is no doubt about that. But that’s a story that is all but being missed by everyone.

    The unfortunate bit in this all is that the topic he brought up – the relentless attack on personal liberty and private property in this country – has been tossed aside. No discussion of it whatsoever. It probably merits some discussion at least. And if he feels passionate about this then I applaud him for trying to bring some light to it. He did it for you and for me too…and for this country’s future.

    Bed time. I think.

  12. Just also read that Theo Epstein skipped out on the Bush invite after the Red Sox won the 2007 world series. I don’t recall any outrage over that. Like I said…I don’t understand the sudden outrage over this.

  13. czhokej says:

    I also consider president a public servant. Not to be worshiped, but to be held accountable.
    However, when I was young, there was a similar occasion, and I was among quite a few young people invited to the presidential palace. It was during the communist rule, and our family was strongly against the totalitarian communist government, but I did not have the courage to decline the invitation. Maybe there was some curiosity and vanity involved, too

    • BackCheck says:

      Remember your Shakespeare my friend? From Henry IV, Part One, 1596:
      Falstaff: ‘The better part of valour is discretion; in the which better part I have saved my life.’

      Frankly, I admire the courage and discipline it took for you to attend the ceremony and conceal the contempt you felt for those honoring you. In that one act you protected your family and you showed genuine courage. Any idiot can martyr themselves cz.

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