GameDay: Flames @ Ducks

Posted: 03/02/2012 by bc in Uncategorized

Goalie change. Look for the Flames to start recent call up Leland Irving. “I sat with Henrik and explained it to him here a couple of days ago and told him exactly what we’re doing,” said Sutter. “At this point in time and where we’re at in standings, if we’re gonna be going with our backup goaltender, I’ve got to go with the guy that’s won us some games and gotten us some points. Take it the way you want – the bottom line is we’ve got to win games.
I hate new goalies late in the season. There’s never much info on the rookies. So often a new guy steps in and has a career game.

The Skinny: Ducks have lost 2 in a row and have gone 3-3-1 in their last 7 games. Tonight and tomorrow against the Kings are make or break for our guys. Win in regulation or fall too far back to have anything more than a mathematical chance of making the playoffs. Corey Perry said, “They are probably the two biggest games of the season right now.”  Teemu Selanne offered, “We just have to do things right and have a solid 60 minutes. Good teams find a way to do it.”  It’s do or die.
Games with the Flames are always enjoyable. It’s tough, hard and clean hockey as opposed to the cheap and chippy style favored by Buffalo Sabres.

It’s a meaningless stat but the Flames are 0-9-5 in the last 14 games at the Honda Center.

Injury Report: With the exception Dan Ellis tender groin, Ducks are healthy. It does look like Ellis is out for the duration. Flames are banged up going without D-man Chris Butler, and forwards Lee Stempniak, Blair Jones and rookie Mikael Backlund.

Trending: This projects to be a hard fought entertaining game. Flames like to smother opponents with a tight checking style that takes away time and space. Our Ducks have become a complete team that can win in different ways.

  1. czhokej says:

    As I said before, the loss against Buffalo was difficult to digest. We have to move the puck better, and we have to skate and find some open space. We shot a lot against the Sabres, but many were simply the low quality attempts. Our top line has to score at least one goal every game, otherwise we do not have a chance. We need to capitalize on some PPs and score first. We had enough games where we got behind.
    Curtis Glencross, once with the Ducks, and traded for basically nothing, is having good year with Calgary. Paid approx. half of Getzlaf’s salary, produces twice as much. The Flames have two good offensive lines Tanguay, Cammalleri, Iginla and Glencross, Jokinen, + ??. Statistically these two teams have almost identical numbers in most categories.

  2. BackChecking with czhokej;

    We have to move the puck better, and we have to skate and find some open space.

    Not easy against a hard working tight checking team like Calgary. As you saw, when Flash gets on his wheels time and space opens up. Gabby put speed on each line. Hagman with the Twins. Cogs & Devo were flying all night.

    Our top line has to score at least one goal every game, otherwise we do not have a chance.

    Top line scored twice tonight. Ducks win 3-2.

    We need to capitalize on some PPs and score first.

    PP ain’t workin’ yet but lookout cookout when it does. Just how good can this team be if they put it all together?

    Statistically these two teams have almost identical numbers in most categories.

    Very true but speed kills. Ducks were quick to the puck and strong on the puck when the got there all game long. Like Flash said before the game, “We just have to do things right and have a solid 60 minutes. Good teams find a way to do it.” Ducks did!

  3. yougetoutwhatyouputin says:

    Glad our team got it done…solid effort…

    Let’s give the Kings a battle!

    FYI-Leafs fire Wilson for RC…saw it coming, Burke had to do something…he can put it on the new coach…but now? Feel for you Lups!

  4. Those sad sacks in TO are going to wish they had played better for Wilson. RC is going to bust them a new one…show ’em how real men work hard. Same story, diff note – it will be interesting to see how RC is with the TO media. I’ll be keeping an eye on how that develops

  5. But back to the game – it seemed to me when the ducks broke out on their good winning streak that they were having lots of good ‘shares’. I feel like that has kind of fallen apart…there doesn’t seem to be as much support on the puck as there was a few weeks ago…leading to more turnovers in the neutral zone and at the blue line. Anyone else notice this, or am I just making up shit as I go?

  6. czhokej says:

    “blake” you are right about those turnovers, I have noticed that too, but mainly against Buffalo.
    This last game was much better. And this time the turnovers were the result of our effort to play faster (and aggressive forecheck by the Flames). Even though I am usually very critical, I was satisfied this time. As bc said above, I liked the speed, I was glad to see people in front of the net, Getzlaf was better (it makes the big difference), and against the hardworking Flames we were able to find some open lanes and we outshot and outchanced them. Our FO% was much better (another big difference maker)! PP got some chances, but we couldn’t score. Our backchecking is now quite efficient, and BB deserves credit for that. We did not score first, but it is a sign of a good team to come back from being behind. Getzlaf did what he was supposed to do, but he can still do better, much better. He is the force which we have to use, and he has to do more battling around the crease, he has to spend more time in the slot, or skating through there.

  7. czhokej says:

    It will be interesting to see RC behind the bench in Toronto. Maybe he learned something by watching Gabby.

  8. bbdux93 says:

    When LA changed their coach, people who seemed to know, thought the change was “out of the frying pan – into the fire” and it doesn’t seemed to have changed them a lot. From Wilson to Carlyle – based on what I have read about Wilson and seen of RC, I doubt there will be much of an improvement on the ice. Wilson was not known to be a nice guy so they won’t be surprised by RC who is Not full of the warm and fuzzies. Our guys are so lucky!

  9. Excellent point Blake. If you don’t have support you’re alone out there.

    Now that Randy Carlyle has found a job, he goes off our ducks payroll. does this mean we can afford to fire Bob Murray?

    • yougetoutwhatyouputin says:

      Excellent point BC/Brad…question, whom would be the best fit for the job?

      • Dave McNab. I don’t have a second choice right now. McNab has been with the org forever. If he isn’t groomed by now well….
        One of the things I shared with Dan Woods is my sense that Bob Murray doesn’t have a vision for the kind of hockey team he wants. If he does, he’s never articulated a clear vision of the kind of team that he’s attempting to create.
        Dan responded with that old story that we were once the Big Bad Ducks and suddenly noticed that we had become much smaller and faster. Well, the thing is, I don’t know how you suddenly notice such a radical departure if you were paying attention to what you were doing in the first place. It’s like burning eggs. How the heck do you burn eggs if you’re paying attention?
        Woods offered the 4th place finish last season as evidence supporting the notion that Bob Murray knows what he’s doing.
        Last season he made us bigger and badder with the additions of Sutton, Ruutu and Winchester. Then he got rid of all of them and made us smaller again. I think when you weigh all the evidence, instead of cherry picking, Murray’s tenure has been a failure.

        The scuttlebutt has been that the Samueli’s don’t want to pay Murray not to manage and Carlyle not to coach. With Carlyle hired by Toronto, paying Murray not to manage may no longer be an issue.

  10. bbdux93 says:

    Does anyone know the length remaining on Murray’s contract?

    I agree with Brad, Murray doesn’t seem to have a vision for this team – or at the very least – there was no communication between he and his good friend Carlyle. The revolving door of players said to me Murray wasn’t giving RC the type of players RC could coach.

  11. I doubt that they will fire Murray. With RC, they probably knew there was good odds of him being hired somewhere else – they made an educated bet that he wouldn’t continue to be a sitting duck on the payroll for long. Barstool however – I’m not sure that I see someone else hiring him…he’s not like Burke where his larger than life personality results in TO calling up wanting to talk to him.

    In regards to McNab – I’m not sure how I feel about that. To me, he seems like a big ‘?’. Your comment about Murray not having a clear vision of what a hockey team is supposed to be – can you say that McNab does have this?

    • My take is that they hoped Randy Carlyle would find a job. He was fired because they had to do something. Obviously they weren’t prepared to give up on the players. I don’t know that it was a “safe bet” that RC would land another job. He’s only ever been hired by Brian Burke to be a head coach in the NHL. RC has never won a Jack Adams, even in his Cup year. He’s never been invited to serve as a coach for the Olympic team. This speaks volumes to RC lacking respect among his peers in the coaching fraternity.

      No, I don’t know what a Dave McNab hockey team would look like. I do know that as the longest serving Ducks employee he has the discipline required to stick to a plan. That’s way more than can be said about Bob Murray.
      McNab served the two most successful Ducks GM’s in Bryan Murray and Brian Burke. I remember Murray saying that he didn’t believe all of Burke’s changes were necessary. Then again, you don’t argue with a Stanley Cup. While he didn’t go into specifics Murray said he thought our Ducks were pretty close to the Stanley Cup when Burke arrived.
      What I like best about Dave McNab is what we do know. He served successfully under two GM’s with differing ideas on what our Ducks needed to win. To do that takes some deft management skills.
      In short, I don’t care much what McNab’s vision is because he’s shown us the ability to stick to it.

  12. Cherry for GM. ha…. just kidding by the way. We’d be fronting a team playing only Ontario born players.

    • yougetoutwhatyouputin says:

      Cherry is very colorful…that suit was actually nice, LOL!…it is a very interesting point he raises…he is a media gem…he got us talking in so-cal.

      • Cherry is more cartoon character now. In his day, he was a very successful coach though. It would appear that Don Cherry’s day has long passed.

        GM’s like Bob Murray, Doug Wilson in San Jose and even Steve Yzerman in Tampa Bay, guys who came up through the ranks as players are fewer and farther between. The modern GM is more likely to be a guy with a post grad degree like Brian Burke, Mike Gillis or Chuck Fletcher.

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